The queen in our package installed at Chastain Conservancy was not released by the bees. I picked up three packages from Don Kuchenmeister (Fatbeeman) for Julia and two for me on March 17. I dropped Julia's by her house and drove home with my two. On that same afternoon, I installed one package at my house and saved the other to take to Chastain the next day.
In most packages, the bees cluster around the queen cage and hang like this in the package (generally clustered around the queen cage suspended beside the feed can:
The bees in the package for Chastain were all over the place completely filling the box - not hanging around or organized on the queen cage. That should have given me pause. But I didn't think about it at the time.
I checked the newly installed hive for food needs two days after installation. The queen hadn't been released and I gave them more honey. Then the temperatures dropped into the 30s and low 40s for about eight days or more. As soon as it was warm enough, we had our first hive inspection and the queen had still not been released. So we made the decision to direct release her and she walked into the hive happily.
Now, three weeks after installation, I went to do an inspection with Julia on our own (not teaching). To my alarm, the only brood in my hive was drone brood. Egg cells had two to five eggs in them as if there were a laying worker. I found several cells with two tiny c-shaped larvae in the bottom. However, instead of a laying worker, we found the queen and watched her put her bottom in a cell to lay.
What this means is that the queen was barely mated. She was mated enough to think she could lay but she must have only mated with a single drone, if that. The bees weren't clustered around her in the package because she wasn't giving out queen pheromone and they didn't release her because of that as well. Don said you couldn't tell by how they hung in the package, and said that I must have bumped the package. I didn't - it's how the package looked when I got it from Don and also the next morning before I had touched it in any way. Jerry Wallace, a well-respected local beekeeper, said that the bees weren't clustering around the queen cage in the package was a sign she wasn't mated.
When you purchase a package, if you get to pick it out yourself, you look for a package that has as few dead bees lying on the bottom of the package as you can. Also since they are filled by estimate, look for one that is pretty full. Now I know to look for how the bees are hanging in the package to make sure the queen is fully functioning.
Because there is no replenishment of the numbers in a hive that starts as a package, the number of bees is now greatly diminished and this formerly 3 pound package now only occupies a sparse three frames in the hive. If the queen were properly mated and laying, this would not be an issue because she would have replacement brood and more ready to emerge by this point, but without any replacement bees, this hive is in jeopardy. The remaining bees will not live for the three weeks it takes for the queen to lay brood and have it emerge.
I called Don and he questioned everything I had done with the hive. He said I should have called him when the bees had not released the queen. I didn't call him because once before I had purchased a queen from him; she had not been released and when I called him, he said, "Release her directly." So rather than bother him, we just released her directly.
He said all of his queens were proven layers and that if I wanted him to replace the queen, I would have to catch the faulty queen and bring her back to him and then he would give me a queen - "I still have three or four," he said. I said I thought he should give me some bees as well because the $95 I paid for the package is all for naught with no replacement brood at this point. He said, "Bees are not guaranteed to live."
I told him that I have a hand tremor and that I have never picked up a queen. He said with a tone filled with contempt, "You are a Master Beekeeper and don't know how to pick up a queen?"
When I went over to Jerry Wallace's house today, he lent me his queen clip and also told me how to "herd" the queen into a queen cage without having to pick her up, so I'll try that first tomorrow and then the queen clip if I can't "herd" her.
I have bought bees from Don for four years and spent a lot of money with him. I have put him on our supplier list that we give out to new beekeepers (over 100 of them) who take our short course. Every time anyone asks me where to get bees I recommend him highly.
No more.
I wish he had just said, "Gosh, I'm sorry, Linda. With this cold beginning to the spring a lot of queens have been poorly mated. Come by and get another one, no problem." But instead he was angry that I was unhappy and seemed resentful that he would have to replace my queen.
I guess he would rather be angry at me and make a poor business decision in how he handled my problem instead of being nice and helpful to me, a steady customer who has sent him many, many customers.
I told him that in my business, we call what he was doing to me "blaming the victim," and he told me not to lecture him and to get another supplier.
But now that's done, as far as I am concerned. I will not be giving out his name any more to anyone. Julia and I are in charge of the MABA short course next year so I will remove his name, since he has essentially suggested that I do so, from our recommended suppliers. I can't imagine a new beekeeper having to deal with what I had to deal with yesterday and today in my interaction with him.
Post Script: Jerry Wallace has been in touch with a number of bee suppliers in south Georgia where Don's packages are raised. Jerry reports that they tell him that many of the queens coming out of south Georgia as early queens are poorly mated because we have had such a cold March throughout the state. Our winter months were not any of them as cold as the first three weeks of March were in Georgia. So many of the queens who flew out were not able to mate as often or as well as they would need to in order to be a success in their hives. I imagine I am not the only one who has called Don to say that the package they received from him had a bad queen.
This is the tale that began in 2006 in my first year of beekeeping in Atlanta, GA. ...there's still so much to learn.
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Wednesday, April 10, 2013
Sunday, May 13, 2012
Death by Drowning, But Revival by a New Queen
My flower pot swarm trap caught a swarm that I called Little Kitten because it was so small. I think it was a secondary swarm and was relieved to find that finally a mated queen was laying in the wax comb.
I had a Boardman feeder at the entrance of the nuc - and those of you who have used Boardmans know that they are not designed for a nuc. To combat the instability I put a package container under the feeder with a small block to support it. However, one night our evening raccoon or maybe my dog, Hannah, had bumped into the Boardman, turning over the feeder bottle.
By the time I discovered the mishap, there was a pool of sugar syrup all over the bottom board of the nuc and bees were having a terrible time negotiating entry to the hive. It could have been like that for several days - I don't always look at the hives every single day. I put the hive on a new bottom board and cleaned up the old one. Then I returned it to the hive and put it all back together.
Sadly, either the queen drowned that night - death by raccoon/Hannah/sugar syrup??? - or the bees, upset with the state of things, balled her. The hive was queenless.
I put frames of brood and eggs into the nuc. They didn't really succeed at making a queen. There was one small queen cell - obviously an inadequate job (1/2 inch long at best) - and the handful of bees now left could not have managed to take care of it.
My friend Jerry ordered 20 virgin queens from Zia and offered me the opportunity to buy one. Zia Queen Bees is a family operation breeding survivor queens. I believe this is the answer to the mite problem - not poison. I snapped him up on it, got the queen on Wednesday night. She was alone in the queen cage. Jerry suggested that I feed her a drop of honey and a drop of water when I got home and that I install her the next day.
An amazing experience but with no pictures: I put a drop of honey on the end of my finger and held it next to the openings in the plastic queen cage. She stuck out her proboscis and sucked the honey off of my finger. I will never forget the experience. I knew the water wouldn't stick to my finger, so I put it in a spoon and watched her drink, but I wished I could repeat the honey drop!
The next day, Thursday, I was scheduled to give a bee talk at 7 PM and from there to drive to Young Harris, so I had a packed day. I luckily had a two hour break in my professional day (but only 2 hours) so I drove to Valerie and Jeff's to get frames of bees to create population for the small Kitten.
Jeff has been busy adding boxes to these hives and this is how they looked:

All of these boxes are full of honey and I can't lift the top box on these hives without a ladder and help, so I opened the hive I call Lenox Pointe (second from the left in the collage above). I took two honey frames with bees from the top box, checking very carefully for the queen. I did this because I could take honey frames out of the top box without having to lift it off of the hive. I put these in a nuc I had waiting. I took three frames - two of brood and bees and one of mostly pollen and honey from the Swarmy hive - the mostly yellow hive on the right in the collage.
I shook a few extra bees, but didn't worry about that as much as I would normally since I am adding this "split" to Little Kitten where there are already some under employed bees.


Oh, and I put an end bar on the entry to give them an entrance reducer of sorts.



Returning from Young Harris, I found the bees happily flying in and out of the hive and seemingly satisfied with their new housing. I'll check tomorrow to see if the queen has been released and then leave them completely alone for three weeks.
I had a Boardman feeder at the entrance of the nuc - and those of you who have used Boardmans know that they are not designed for a nuc. To combat the instability I put a package container under the feeder with a small block to support it. However, one night our evening raccoon or maybe my dog, Hannah, had bumped into the Boardman, turning over the feeder bottle.
By the time I discovered the mishap, there was a pool of sugar syrup all over the bottom board of the nuc and bees were having a terrible time negotiating entry to the hive. It could have been like that for several days - I don't always look at the hives every single day. I put the hive on a new bottom board and cleaned up the old one. Then I returned it to the hive and put it all back together.
Sadly, either the queen drowned that night - death by raccoon/Hannah/sugar syrup??? - or the bees, upset with the state of things, balled her. The hive was queenless.
I put frames of brood and eggs into the nuc. They didn't really succeed at making a queen. There was one small queen cell - obviously an inadequate job (1/2 inch long at best) - and the handful of bees now left could not have managed to take care of it.
My friend Jerry ordered 20 virgin queens from Zia and offered me the opportunity to buy one. Zia Queen Bees is a family operation breeding survivor queens. I believe this is the answer to the mite problem - not poison. I snapped him up on it, got the queen on Wednesday night. She was alone in the queen cage. Jerry suggested that I feed her a drop of honey and a drop of water when I got home and that I install her the next day.
An amazing experience but with no pictures: I put a drop of honey on the end of my finger and held it next to the openings in the plastic queen cage. She stuck out her proboscis and sucked the honey off of my finger. I will never forget the experience. I knew the water wouldn't stick to my finger, so I put it in a spoon and watched her drink, but I wished I could repeat the honey drop!
The next day, Thursday, I was scheduled to give a bee talk at 7 PM and from there to drive to Young Harris, so I had a packed day. I luckily had a two hour break in my professional day (but only 2 hours) so I drove to Valerie and Jeff's to get frames of bees to create population for the small Kitten.
Jeff has been busy adding boxes to these hives and this is how they looked:

All of these boxes are full of honey and I can't lift the top box on these hives without a ladder and help, so I opened the hive I call Lenox Pointe (second from the left in the collage above). I took two honey frames with bees from the top box, checking very carefully for the queen. I did this because I could take honey frames out of the top box without having to lift it off of the hive. I put these in a nuc I had waiting. I took three frames - two of brood and bees and one of mostly pollen and honey from the Swarmy hive - the mostly yellow hive on the right in the collage.
I shook a few extra bees, but didn't worry about that as much as I would normally since I am adding this "split" to Little Kitten where there are already some under employed bees.
I had to be back at my office at 1:00. When I finished at Jeff's, it was 12:25 and I had a 20 - 25 minute drive back to my house. I drove in my bee jacket as quickly as I could within the limits of the law. When I got home it was 12:50 and I needed to be at work in 10 minutes.
I walked the nuc through my house to save time because the nuc is on my deck. I opened it, took out the frames and put them in a second nuc box on Little Kitten without disturbing the bottom box. Then I took the queen out of my top pocket and put her cage between two frames, put the inner cover back on, and ran into the house, stripping jacket, etc. as I went.
Oh, and I put an end bar on the entry to give them an entrance reducer of sorts.
I threw on my business clothes, jumped in the car (my office is 5 minutes from home) and got to my appointment there at 1:05.
Returning from Young Harris, I found the bees happily flying in and out of the hive and seemingly satisfied with their new housing. I'll check tomorrow to see if the queen has been released and then leave them completely alone for three weeks.
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